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#220 From Hydrogen Glass Melting to Circular Fibers: How SUSTAINA® Is Redefining Circularity in Composites

20.05.2026 16 min Staffel 5 Episode 178

Zusammenfassung & Show Notes

Recorded at JEC World 2026, this episode of Composites 360° on Tour features an in-depth conversation with Chris Skinner, one of the most influential leaders in the global glass and composites industry.
In this interview, we explore how industrial-scale circularity in composites is moving from ambition to reality — through technology, partnerships, and systems thinking.
 
🔁 Rethinking Circularity: SUSTAINA® and SUSTAINA® Loop
Glass fiber composites are engineered to be durable and robust. But that very strength makes end-of-life solutions complex. Chris Skinner explains why circularity in composites cannot rely on downcycling — and why the real goal must be to recover materials and return them to prime-quality production.

This is the foundation of SUSTAINA®, a structured approach that starts with internal production waste, expands to customer waste, and ultimately tackles end-of-life composites through SUSTAINA® Loop. The objective: reintroduce recovered materials back into the furnace to generate new, high-performance glass fiber.

A key breakthrough discussed in the interview is the use of green hydrogen for glass melting, significantly reducing CO₂ emissions at the source while maintaining industrial performance.
 
🤝 Partnerships as the Core Enabler

One of the strongest messages from this conversation is clear:
no company can achieve composites circularity alone.
Advanced recycling processes such as solvolysis and pyrolysis require specialist expertise and infrastructure. Chris explains why partnerships are essential and highlights real-world collaboration with Gjenkraft, a leading composites recycler focused on end-of-life materials.
In this ecosystem approach, partners handle waste processing and fiber recovery, while materials are requalified and reprocessed into prime fiberglass. Circularity, as Chris puts it, only works if the industry operates as a village.
 
🌍 From Company Strategy to European Ecosystem

What makes this interview especially timely is how it aligns with broader European initiatives such as the European Circular Composites Alliance (ECCA). Launched by EuCIA in partnership with JEC Group, ECCA aims to scale exactly the kind of industrial solutions discussed here — by connecting value-chain players, setting targets, and embedding circularity into future regulation and design standards.
 
🧭 Identity, Heritage, and the Future

As the industry evolves, so does identity. Chris shares why the business is positioning itself as The Original Composites Company™, reconnecting innovation, heritage, and credibility — with a refreshed visual language where, yes, black simply looks cool.
 
🎥 Featuring

• Chris Skinner
• Nadège (industrial hydrogen & SUSTAINA® implementation)
• Étienne Roux
📍 Location: JEC World 2026
📌 Series: Composites 360° on Tour
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Transkript

So wonderful good morning dear. LinkedIn Community Composites Lounge members. JEC WORLD day two exhibitors and visitors I am here together with the inventor of fiberglass and the disrupter of the circularity in our industry. Welcome, Chris, to our show. Nice to see you, man. It's always a pleasure, Chris. We have met already last year and “techtaint” our community. Last year the topic was you are in a transitioning from one company to the next one. What is the update right now? Because our community is keen on learning from the first hand what's going on right now. I mean, it's it's been a it's been a long journey. It's been it's been an exciting journey, you know, and I think we're going through a process of establishing and building the future of our company. I mean, the glass reinforcements business is is a world class business. It is a world leading business. It's a global business. And really this process of standing it up and starting this process of building a new identity for this business is is underway. And really, we're getting to the point now where regulatory approval has been granted and we're kind of moving to the last weeks before this thing closes. And once it closes, then I can formally tell you what the name of new company is going to be. But you've probably noticed from a lot of the stuff you have a new look, you have a new feel, and you have a really kind of a focus of developing a brand, which is all about innovation. It's about circularity, and it's about partnership. So what do you think about my message today? I think. I think I need to get a jacket just like yours, because it's part of the future of our business. I will open a shop and then you can order it, or I get you one free in exchange of the book. All right, how about that? Yeah. That'll be a good one. Wonderful. We will talk about the book in a separate one, because they have compiled a composites history book. Very, very exciting. Please get your copy on that. So one of our heart topics is of course, sustainability. So let's talk about sustainability in the terms of SUSTAINA®. Now as far as I understood SUSTAINA® you have several layers. Let's talk about the last layer. The last layer means you are looking now also for partnerships. And we will touch on the partnership requirements. Just in a minute. Tell us where do you stand with SUSTAINA®. I think if you if you have to take a step back. Right. We work in an incredible industry, have tremendous technology. We deliver stuff that's durable and robust. It lasts forever. Fundamentally, that's one of the issues. It lasts forever. It's designed not to fall apart. It really the point of how do you actually turn it back into a product at the end of the life is super complicated. And, you know, we've spent many years wondering how we do this, you know, and I think we started with a premise in the glass reinforcements business, which was we sell modulus, we sell performance, we sell modulus. And really the point of chopping it into short material and kind of upcycling, it kind of get gets away from that. So really what we said is we have to create the technology to enable us to put material back in the furnace and generate essentially prime product again. And that's the basis of SUSTAINA®, right? And I think you look at it and go, the first thing you do is you focus on cleaning your house because every production process has waste. You have to be able to deal with that. And then you look and look at it and say, in the industry and we're working, we have people that convert and we can take their waste and we can convert that back to prime product. And then really, the holy Grail is end of life. And really what we're focusing now is how do we actually build the partnerships to enable us to take end of life waste, to process it, to give us the materials that we can then process to generate fiber again. And that's what SUSTAINA® Loop is. So, Chris, we have a video that is compiled by Nadège And tell us about the video that is upcoming right now. What will be the the relation to the SUSTAINA®? Yeah. And the video I mean, is awesome, right? I mean, she's awesome when you look at this video. But really there's a couple of key points in this process, right? I mean, the first point is we're doing something pretty unique, which is we're actually melting the glass using hydrogen. Right. So essentially what does that mean? It means you don't use natural gas or green hydrogen. The embodied carbon is basically zero. So that's one thing. Okay. Take that off. That was a big move. But then what you also see is you've seen Nadège talking about the process of taking recovered fibers, processing them and putting them back in the furnace. And this is the basis of SUSTAINA®. Wonderful sounds. Totally logic. Now let's have a look at that video. And after the video we will continue with the partnerships with Corning. In 2025 we began a new chapter. We're starting changing how fiberglass is made with low carbon emissions and circularity with real industrial solutions. Today, this vision is becoming reality here in L’Ardoise. A year ago, we ran a week long trial that showed us that reducing our industry CO2 emissions is possible. Today, green hydrogen is produced right here on site to fuel a multi-month industrial trial. This test is designed to demonstrate the robustness, scalability and performance at a real manufacturing scale and. In the first time, we are running hydrogen continuously at a new still scale in real manufacturing conditions. Making the hydrogen here on site helps us understand long term reliability, cost and what this technology could mean for a future with low CO2 glass melting. Last year, we also introduced a new way to recycle glass fiber waste back into our fans. This year this process is expanding now. SUSTAINA® Loop. Our high performing circular ADVANTEX® glass is produced at scale with different source of waste. Either waste coming from our customer, either waste coming from our production. What we are doing here shows that circularity, decarbonization and industrial performance can move forward together. Let's make circularity possible. Let's make more possible. So now back from the nice video with Nadège really powerful lady. It's a wonderful footage that you have created there. Now, Chris, you said you're looking looking for partnerships. My question here is, so why do you need partners? What kind of partners would you need? And why should people care about partnering up with you? I mean, it's an interesting question, right? I think if you went back 20 years, companies thought they could do it themselves. Right. And really what we do is we work in a world now, which is super complicated, super technical, and in many cases you don't have the capability and skills to do it. And really, when we talk about partnerships in recycling, we're talking about people that have got expertise in solvolysis, pyrolysis. You know, and it's it's complicated stuff and it's stuff that we don't do. So really we say, look, we want to find people that we want to partner with because, okay, we work with great companies like composites recycling like Gjenkraft. These people are world class. In this difficult step of taking end of life material and reprocessing it. So for us, partnership makes sense because we can reprocess the fiber, they can process the waste, they can actually find sources for the pyrolysis oil or uses for the pyrolysis oil. So really it's building an ecosystem that's going to actually make this work. I mean, the composites industry is a village. We have to operate as a village to make this work, because no one's big enough to actually deal with this cross-border cross region, cross everything. So for us, partnership is key, you know, and I think what we look for as we look for technical competence, we look for openness. We look for people that are prepared to kind of push the boundaries and take risks. And that's what we try to do as well. So you mentioned some of these partnerships. Yesterday I went to the Circular Village to interview Estelle, also from EUCIA, and then we spontaneously decided actually to interview Gjenkraft. Marcin Rusin, shout out to you at this point. Can you give us an illustrate as an example? How does partnership work so that our community understands how this is actually implemented? Yeah, I mean, if you take Gjenkraft, Gjenkraft has a really a pretty clear business model. They have a clear focus of the of the let's call it the end of life waste that they're focused on recovering. You know, really for us what we do is we we we partner with Gjenkraft. They provide fibers to us which have been pyrolysis. Pyrolysis. You know, we have very clear guidance and, and operations in terms of how we think about the quality of those fibers. We worked to optimize this. And then basically we'll reprocess the fiber into essentially prime fiberglass. Wonderful. Nice. I think we've covered a lot of grounds. I have a final question to you, Chris. I don't get it. We have green and black. Now black. I always associated with carbon, but you're not a carbon company. So where does this black come? It's very interesting. Right? So we call it original green, right. So you know, we're going to move to an environment where we talk about ourselves as The Original Composites Company™ . Back to what you said about the inventor of fiberglass. We're going to talk about as The Original Composites Company™ . So we have original green. Black just looks cool. Looks great. Right? It just. Looks cool. Black is an elegant case. Exactly. It looks cool. So that's why we choose black. Wonderful. Thank you so much, Chris, for all these insights. Always a pleasure talking to you. Every pleasure to. Many, many times. It's a pleasure. Thank you. How do we connect you with the stories within the composites and sustainable materials industry? We are on the ground to find the facts and we examine big, innovative ideas. We let perspectives on technology and sustainability emerge and ignite conversations that matter most to bring you the composites and sustainability world to you. Stay informed. Stay connected. Stay inspired. From our online studios in Germany, we cover events and corporates from Germany France, UK, Central Europe Italy, Türkiye and other European regions. Join us for creating sustainable value. 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