Breaking Through the Learning Plateau: How to Stay Motivated and Keep Going with English
2026-09-27 28 min
Description & Show Notes
Ever feel like your English just isn’t moving forward anymore? You’re learning, you’re trying, but somehow you still feel stuck. In this episode, we talk about why language learning plateaus happen, how comparison and self-doubt can make them worse, and what you can do to get moving again. And surprisingly, the answer might not be to push yourself harder — but to be a little kinder to yourself.
- 0:00 – Introduction and the topic of learning plateaus
- 0:54 – What a learning plateau can look like
- 2:48 – Learners often underestimate their actual ability
- 3:09 – The psychological effect of creating an unnecessarily large gap
- 5:28 – Trusting the trainer's assessment
- 6:29 – Acceptance can make a plateau feel manageable
- 7:30 – Four questions for getting unstuck: What, How, Why and Can I?
- 8:19 – Birgit's long-term approach to language learning
- 9:49 – A setback while speaking Dutch
- 10:30 – Moving from "What?" to "How?"
- 11:32 – “Can I?” and confidence in language learning
- 12:10 – The importance of having a “Why”
- 13:05 – Rebecca’s experience of becoming a beginner again
- 14:07 – When did you last learn something completely new?
- 14:47 – Finding the “wobble” in the four questions
- 15:50 – Why motivation becomes difficult without a purpose
- 16:41 – Birgit immediately finds a personal reason for Japanese
- 17:30 – Using the four questions to diagnose a learning plateau
- 18:20 – Self-forgiveness as a way to maintain motivation
- 19:25 – Why guilt can lead to more self-sabotage
- 20:20 – “Self-forgiveness is not self-indulgence”
- 21:07 – The inner critic and comparing yourself with others
- 22:18 – Why forgiveness makes it easier to try again tomorrow
- 22:57 – Modern life, endless choices and increasing pressure
- 23:29 – Social media, comparison and the lack of self-forgiveness
- 24:17 – Golden Nugget: Rebecca’s new positive psychology and English courses
- 25:05 – Different course levels and flexible digital learning
- 25:50 – “Mindset Monday” and a new learning community
- 26:37 – Preview of the next episode: modal verbs
- 27:13 – Closing message and invitation to support the podcast
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Hast du schon mal das Gefühl gehabt, dass du mit deinem Englisch einfach nicht mehr vorankommst? Du lernst, du gibst dir Mühe, aber irgendwie kommst du einfach nicht weiter. In dieser Folge sprechen wir darüber, warum es beim Sprachenlernen zu Stillstandphasen kommt, wie Vergleiche und Selbstzweifel diese noch verschlimmern können und was du tun kannst, um wieder voranzukommen. Und überraschenderweise liegt die Antwort vielleicht nicht darin, dich noch mehr anzustrengen – sondern ein bisschen nachsichtiger mit dir selbst zu sein.
- 0:00 – Einführung und das Thema Lernplateaus
- 0:54 – Wie ein Lernplateau aussehen kann
- 2:48 – Lernende unterschätzen oft ihre tatsächlichen Fähigkeiten
- 3:09 – Der psychologische Effekt, wenn man eine unnötig große Lücke schafft
- 5:28 – Dem Urteil des Trainers vertrauen
- 6:29 – Akzeptanz kann helfen, eine Stagnationsphase besser zu bewältigen
- 7:30 – Vier Fragen, um aus einer Sackgasse herauszukommen: Was, Wie, Warum und Kann ich das?
- 8:19 – Birgits langfristiger Ansatz beim Sprachenlernen
- 9:49 – Ein Rückschlag beim Niederländischsprechen
- 10:30 – Der Übergang von „Was?“ zu „Wie?“
- 11:32 – „Kann ich das?“ und Selbstvertrauen beim Sprachenlernen
- 12:10 – Die Bedeutung eines „Warum“
- 13:05 – Rebeccas Erfahrung, wieder Anfängerin zu werden
- 14:07 – Wann hast du das letzte Mal etwas völlig Neues gelernt?
- 14:47 – Das „Wackeln“ in den vier Fragen entdecken
- 15:50 – Warum Motivation ohne Ziel schwierig wird
- 16:41 – Birgit findet sofort einen persönlichen Grund für Japanisch
- 17:30 – Mit den vier Fragen ein Lernplateau diagnostizieren
- 18:20 – Sich selbst zu vergeben, um die Motivation aufrechtzuerhalten
- 19:25 – Warum Schuldgefühle zu mehr Selbstsabotage führen können
- 20:20 – „Sich selbst zu vergeben ist keine Nachsicht“
- 21:07 – Der innere Kritiker und der Vergleich mit anderen
- 22:18 – Warum Vergebung es leichter macht, es morgen erneut zu versuchen
- 22:57 – Das moderne Leben, unendliche Auswahlmöglichkeiten und zunehmender Druck
- 23:29 – Soziale Medien, Vergleiche und die Unfähigkeit, sich selbst zu vergeben
- 24:17 – Golden Nugget: Rebeccas neue Kurse in positiver Psychologie und Englisch
- 25:05 – Verschiedene Kursstufen und flexibles digitales Lernen
- 25:50 – „Mindset Monday“ und eine neue Lerngemeinschaft
- 26:37 – Vorschau auf die nächste Folge: Modalverben
- 27:13 – Abschlussbotschaft und Einladung, den Podcast zu unterstützen
Transcript
(Transcribed by TurboScribe. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hi, welcome to the 3 English Experts.
I'm Dave, I'm Rebecca and I'm Birgit and welcome to this episode.
3 English Experts is your English podcast to help you speak better English and create a positive and happy mindset for your English learning journey.
Hello everybody, welcome to today's episode.
Today we are talking about learning plateaus and how to overcome them, how to notice you are on one of them.
Today we are only two experts because Dave is not here, he's on holiday.
Actually, he's in England at the moment.
It's Rebecca and me and Rebecca is going to introduce some very interesting mindset tips, how to overcome learning plateaus.
Hello, Rebecca.
Hi, hello.
Yes, we're on our own today.
So I'm going to talk a little bit about mindset because when we talk about plateau, what do we mean?
It could be that you're learning but you're not feeling progress perhaps, or you're just not really learning at the moment because you don't know where to start, where to go.
So your learning has kind of gone a bit flat or has stopped perhaps.
So there's kind of different type of plateau.
The first thing I want to talk about is something called self-concept theory.
And I'm sure when I explain this big, it's going to say, well, my clients have this problem as well.
There's something called self-concept theory by a psychologist called Carl Rogers, very famous psychologist, humanist psychologist.
And self-concept theory is not just for language learning, it's for all types of things.
And it divides yourself into your real self, your perceived self and your ideal self.
If we think about this from a language point of view, so your real self is your real level.
We're talking about levels now, let's say.
So you're intermediate or you're whatever you are.
And that's the reality check.
What are you actually?
What really are you?
Then you've got your perceived self.
So what is your perception of yourself, of your level?
So, well, I think I'm a B1 or I see myself as a B2.
And then there's your ideal self.
So your ideal self is, but I would love to be a C1 or I would love to be C2.
And the problem is that I think actually a lot of my clients, and I'm sure you've had this as well, Birgit, they don't actually know their real self.
Their perceived self and their real self are often quite different.
Sometimes people overestimate their level.
I have had people go, oh, I'm a C1.
I think, oh, no, you're not.
I don't say that.
I would be very encouraging, but like Birgit said, it's the other way around.
Is that your experience?
Yes.
Only yesterday I had one learner and she felt she wasn't very good, but indeed compared, because we can compare, we have so many different learners, compared to other learners, she would start on a good level.
So she didn't feel comfortable, obviously, but her perceived self was not her real self, I would say.
Yeah.
And it's often that way around that their perceived self is not the reality.
So they say, oh, I can't do this, and I'm not good, and I'm probably only about a B1.
I think you're actually a pretty stable B2.
First of all, we're talking again about A1, B1, all this kind of stuff.
These are these European standard levels of languages, if you're not sure about that.
So B1 would be low intermediate, B2 would be upper intermediate, C1 would be advanced, and C2 would be near native, just to give you a tip if you're not sure about those.
But first of all, I think people get stuck on these numbers, which they can be helpful to give you a guideline, but I think you shouldn't get too stuck on the numbers.
And people really do underestimate themselves.
And the problem is, if your perceived self is, say, a B1, and your ideal self is a C2, massive gap, that's a huge gap.
Whereas if your actual self is perhaps a B2, and your ideal self is a C2, then the gap's a bit smaller.
So in your mind, by putting yourself at a lower level, you're kind of creating this enormous goal, this enormous gap, which feels too much to complete.
And then a lot of people say, oh, it's just too much, can't do that.
Acceptance, I think is the key word here, acceptance of your real self.
Be honest, be honest with yourself.
It's not all terrible.
Again, going back to strengths, look at your positive points.
What can I do?
Not like, oh, I can't do this, and I can't do that.
Let's make a big list of all the stuff you can do.
Let's think of all the things you're able to do, your successes you've had in your language so far.
And of course, the other big problem is comparison, isn't it?
We all compare to others.
And I think this is a huge problem when they go, oh, but all my colleagues, they speak perfect English.
And I'm thinking, I'm sure they don't.
I'm sure they don't, because I've met most of them and they don't.
But they just can't accept that.
So for me, key one is this trying to accept what is your real self.
And if you struggle with that, believe your teacher.
So I say to people, they don't believe us.
And I say to them, why don't you trust me?
You've worked with me for a long time.
I've been doing this job for more than 25 years.
If I'm telling you something, you can be fairly sure I'm pretty accurate.
And they don't believe you.
Is that true, Birgit?
I can really tell everybody listening out there, Rebecca is very accurate and she spots mistakes and she would comment on what she thinks is not correct.
Definitely trust Rebecca.
Yeah, but do you have that?
Trust me too, please.
Yeah, I was going to say, do you have that?
Do you say things to learners and they go, oh, no, no, no, I don't think I'm that good.
Yeah, they don't always believe us, right?
Sometimes I have learners who stay for a shorter period of time, three months or four months, because they want to brush up.
And then I have learners who stay on and stay on.
Lovely.
It's wonderful.
I like it.
But then I come to a point where I feel like, can't they see they've made progress and they are okay now, but they still have this sort of, no, no, when I stop now, I like the confidence.
And that's probably part of this not living in the country.
That's what I think.
They're missing opportunities.
We had another episode on this, but yeah, definitely I get this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They don't believe us.
So acceptance of what you really are, be honest with yourself, think about what you can do.
If you have a good, you're a nice trainer, believe them.
They're probably right.
And they probably know more than you.
So it's okay to trust the trainer.
That's okay.
And you're not helping yourself by doing this, by creating this perceived self.
And then this having this big goal, you're just not helping yourself.
You're making it more difficult for yourself.
Often when we have these plateaus, sometimes we can't move forward because it all feels too much and it feels too big.
So it's better just to step away because it's easier to say I can't do it.
Whereas if the gap feels smaller between yourself and your ideal self, it feels more realistic.
Okay.
So the second point I've talked about this before, if you are stuck, if you feel stuck, maybe you're not progressing, or maybe you're a bit bored of what you're doing, or you just don't know where am I going right now?
I want to come back, but I don't really know where to go.
There's four key questions that I always ask, and you can use this with any kind of goal, but they work well with language.
What, how, why, and can I?
These are the four questions.
Let's use you as an example, if that's okay.
The guinea pig, she's going to be the guinea pig.
The guinea pig, I was having this conversation with a client recently, and he was like, what is the guinea pig?
So the Germans use a rabbit.
It's the Fusselskaninchen, is it?
I think.
And we use guinea pigs for whatever reason.
Yeah, we're the Meerschweinchen.
So big is going to be my guinea pig.
So thinking about your Dutch, asking the four questions.
So first of all, what is your target in Dutch?
What's your aim would you say with your Dutch?
Well, eventually being able to have an easy conversation with Dutch people.
Okay.
Okay.
So you don't have a specific level.
You just want to have this sort of way to have a conversation.
I would just like to add something to be on the same page, because what you now introduced made me feel very strong about one thing is that I don't worry about this with languages.
I don't know why, but I can just tell you that I'm sure about, so I accept something.
And I know it's a long way somewhere.
A long time ago, I heard it takes like 10 years to learn a language properly, if you want to speak it fluently, if you don't live in the country.
And that's when you think of English and how many lessons you had at school makes sense.
And it's not far away from what time it is.
I'm open.
I know.
So I have accepted.
It's a long way when I started.
And for me, it's important to stop, take lessons up again and to have fun doing it and to perceiving small steps and no rush.
There's no rushing for me.
Yeah.
So that's in general with languages.
So I'm not one of the perceived self sort of goal.
And that's perfect.
And that's why you do well with languages.
So big example there that she doesn't have this sort of extreme massive expectations.
She didn't say when I said, what do you want to do with Dutch?
Her answer was, I just want to have a nice, easy conversation with Dutch people.
She's not like I need to be C2 native.
And that's the point.
So realistic goal and accepting where she is now and just going with the flow, having fun with it.
It's not this heavy pressure, I think.
So I think that's great.
Yes.
And had a setback just to let you know, because I've been learning Dutch on and off for probably six, seven years now.
And by now I understand when I'm reading a book and I understand most everything.
So I was in the Netherlands, we were sitting down, we were having something to eat and I tried to order it in Dutch and the lady changed into German and I wasn't able because I got emotional and I wasn't able to respond properly in a good Dutch.
Usually I can have a conversation in Dutch.
I have setbacks.
So that annoyed me a lot.
Yeah.
So I'm not there yet, not yet.
But you accept that it was just a setback.
It's not the end of the world and it will be different.
And you had an emotional response, which is normal.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm not there yet, but okay.
I need to go on.
Okay.
So we've talked about the what, which was a nice what, it wasn't too high.
It was quite a nice sort of target, nothing too pressure.
So next question, the other question from the four is how, so how are you doing this at the Yeah.
At the moment, as I said, I'm reading a book.
I listen to podcasts sometimes and they are on a B2 level now, I think.
And I'm thinking about taking up conversation classes again.
Okay.
But you did them in the past, right?
You had conversation classes.
Yeah.
I had, I would say whole thing about a year of conversation going on.
Okay.
That's pretty good.
So you've got a plan, you know what you like, so the what is fairly clear, the how, how am I doing this podcast books, maybe conversation classes again.
Okay.
So next question is, can I, so how would you answer that question?
Can I learn Dutch?
Am I able Of course.
Sorry.
In this respect, I have my other issues where I wouldn't be as confident, but with languages, of course.
I mean, I'm even thinking about taking up another one.
For me, it's fun.
I must really say it's language is communication.
It's interesting.
And I think, yes, because I'm sure.
So obviously I managed to other languages.
Why shouldn't I?
Yeah.
So that's the point.
So can I, it's not your problem because you've learned other languages.
It's fun.
You enjoy it.
You even thinking of doing another one.
So the last question is why, why are you doing this?
Why are you learning Dutch?
What's your kind of purpose?
Yeah, I think we had that before we used to go to the Netherlands often.
That was before COVID.
And I had at that time learner starting.
She's still with me who started on a very low level.
So for a teacher, I think every teacher can agree.
If you have somebody starting from zero, it's harder because you have to be very patient.
You have to explain everything and the steps are very short.
You cannot give them as much information as a teacher.
You're always sort of drawn towards letting people know what you know and what, and that's difficult.
And I thought, okay, well, I start with a new language and I experienced problems.
Alsthebrief or dank that were words that took ages for me, really one word I couldn't remember.
So it was a very good experience.
How hard it is.
Obviously I was not 20 then, so a little more, but I did exactly the same with Japanese.
I wanted to know what it was like to be a complete learner, a complete beginner again, because it's a long time since I'd learned a new language from scratch.
So I thought, right, I'm going to go big.
I'm going to go Japanese, one of the most difficult languages in the world to learn.
And it was tough.
It was really tough, but it was great as a teacher to go through that and experience how it feels to sit there in the car.
I went to classes, you know, false or Schuller.
Oh, goodness.
It was rough, you know, like sitting there and like them asking, and you know, you're counting the questions, thinking, right, she's going to ask me question number three.
I'm going to prepare my answer, you know, like you used to do at school.
You're like a child.
Yeah, really.
And then embarrassed when you didn't know the answer and apologizing and that was my classic phrase, which is basically excuse me, I'm sorry, because I didn't know the answer to everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it is a good experience to go back as a teacher.
Okay.
And just one more thought with this, because I had this this morning, one learner who struggles remembering one thing I repeat very often, he's in his 50s, early 50s.
And then I asked, does he play an instrument?
Is he good at a sport?
And none of that applies.
So ask the learner or ask yourself, when was the last time you learned something from scratch?
And how long did it take to repeat?
And that's connected to language learning as well.
So a lot of people we have, they are used to learning stuff there, maybe in their 20s, they learn or they go to courses, but not everybody.
Yeah, it's a long time since people learned something new.
That's often the case.
Yeah.
So going back to the four questions, I think so Bigger was able to answer all of those four questions.
She could say what she was doing.
She could say how she was doing it.
She could say why she was doing it.
And she could say, can I?
She could answer yes, I can.
I believe I can.
I have the ability to do this.
But I often find that when you ask these four questions, one of them is what I call the wobble, where someone's not quite sure.
So ask yourself those four questions about your English.
What am I doing?
What am I actually aiming for?
What is my target?
How am I going to do this?
If I'm doing one system and it's not working, change it.
No, everybody is different.
Everyone likes a different way of learning.
Can I?
Is that the problem?
Is it self-belief?
Is it your confidence that's the problem?
Is it this person inside of you that's saying, oh, I was never good at languages and oh, I'm too old.
I can't do this now.
What is it?
Is that your problem?
Because maybe that's what you need to work on is your confidence.
And I'm currently creating some courses that will help you increase your confidence with English.
I'll bring that up in the Golden Nugget.
And then finally, the why.
The why is a big one.
I think if anything in life, if you don't have a why, if you don't have a purpose, it's very difficult to motivate yourself to do something if you don't really know why you're doing it.
That was always my Japanese problem.
I knew what I wanted to do.
I wanted to be able to have basic conversations.
I knew how I tried all types of different methods.
I can, I sure I can.
I've learned other languages.
Can't be that bad.
You know, I know I'm able to do this.
My biggest wobble was why?
Gosh dang, why am I doing this?
Because there was no real reason for me to do it.
It was just fun.
And I always think, is fun a big enough purpose?
But I guess it is.
But it was always my kind of wobble.
And Germans would always say, when I say I'm learning Japanese, they go, warum?
And I'm being like, I can't answer.
I can instantly think of why if I was starting Japanese, because it's also painting, isn't it?
I mean, one of my hobbies is I'm a painter.
I would love that we're able to, I wouldn't, to understand the meaning in Japanese science and combine that artistic creativity.
See, that's my problem.
I'm not artistic at all.
And I would be there with my big calligraphy pen and she'd be looking at the way and I could see what was on the page and I'm just supposed to be copying.
And why does mine look nothing like it's like my hand does not move the way it's supposed to go.
Absolute nightmare for me.
Looks fantastic.
Like when you read it, but it's not, I can't reproduce that.
Yeah.
Anyway.
So that was always my wobble question.
So ask yourself the four questions.
If you're at a plateau, maybe there's one of these questions will help you move forward.
Maybe you need a different system.
Maybe your how is not quite established.
Maybe you need a different goal.
You need a different what?
Maybe you need a different why, or you need to focus more on your why and push that a bit more and really think about why you're doing this.
And finally, maybe it's your can I, maybe it's just your confidence and you need to work on that.
So those are the other four things I would add.
The third point I want to talk about is self-forgiveness, which I think we don't always have very much of.
Unfortunately, I'm reading a book at the moment and it is absolutely fantastic.
And it's called the willpower instinct by Kelly McGonigal.
She's a psychologist.
She teaches courses at Stanford on willpower and motivation.
She's a big motivation girl.
And it's such a good book.
I have to say, I'm absolutely loving it.
You can see her big, there's all these pink things sticking out of it because I've made so many notes.
It's so, so good.
But one of the things I was reading last night, and I just thought this was so interesting is forgiveness, self-forgiveness.
So when we do something that's not related to our goals, so I don't know, you're trying to lose a kilo and then you eat a big piece of chocolate cake, or you're planning to improve your English and then you don't do any vocabulary for like two weeks or a month or something, or you avoid listening to something because, or you switch the subtitles on or you switch the film back into German.
You have a little setback.
There's a lot of evidence that shows self-forgiveness is the way to actually increase your willpower and keep moving forward.
And that making yourself feel guilty has the opposite effect.
Again, there was studies where two groups of women were given chocolates and they were encouraged to eat some of the chocolates.
And these were people who were trying to sort of watch their weight.
And then one of the groups, they were told to say how they felt afterwards.
And then they were given another set of chocolates.
The other group, they were told to forgive themselves.
They were said, Hey, you know, it's not that bad.
And, you know, next time you'll do okay.
And you don't need to be so hard on yourself.
And the group that had the self-forgiveness sort of reinforcement, ate less chocolates on the second round.
And the group that had no information that were just left on their own to feel guilty, and to feel a bit of shame, they ate more chocolates in the second round.
So they were actually sabotaging themselves.
And it was the self-forgiveness group that did better, which is really interesting because I think when we think about self-forgiveness, people think of it as a weak thing.
Oh, you've let yourself off.
You're not being strict enough with yourself.
People always say that I need to be stricter with myself.
I need to be harder on myself.
Yes, we need a certain amount of discipline and goals.
But if you're constantly punishing yourself, all you're doing is producing guilt, and you're producing shame.
And then you end up not doing what you should be doing.
You go against yourself, you sabotage your own goals.
And she wrote down here, I've got to self-forgiveness is not self-indulgence.
It's okay to have a break.
And it's okay to forgive yourself if you make a mistake, or you do something that's maybe not in the interest of your goals.
And just one thing she wrote, which I thought was so interesting.
Study after study shows that self-criticism is consistently associated with less motivation.
Isn't that so interesting?
Because that goes against everything we believe.
Criticizing consistently is associated with less motivation.
Fascinating.
Yeah.
Thank you.
That's a very good point.
And I think what comes to my mind is that our podcast, really, we set it up to make people feel good about, because this criticism, this inner criticism is really, really loud for many people.
I've just come across a book, which I read, The Inner Critic.
Yes.
And that's also reflecting what you said earlier, the wish.
A lot of clients or people get hung up on the other people speak better.
So that's a criticism, really.
They're criticizing themselves.
And I think the others are always better acceptance.
So that all goes in together.
And that's what I said it earlier, I think, with the Dutch.
I tell myself 10 years, so that's a long time.
I have enough time, no pressure, no pressure, because I know for myself, I can push, I can be very pushy.
That's my family.
Oh, yeah.
And if I do that too much, of course, I do it with myself.
It's just not healthy.
It's not healthy.
And it doesn't help you move forward, does it?
It kind of paralyzes you sometimes.
Exhausting.
Yeah.
It's just not healthy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The question is, why does this forgiveness help us move forward?
And according to this book, it takes away the guilt and the shame.
So if you say, it's OK, I messed up today, or I didn't mess up.
I just didn't do what I was supposed to do, perhaps.
But it's OK.
You're taking away the guilt and the feelings of guilt and shame.
So then you're more open minded to thinking, well, what can I do better tomorrow?
Oh, well, I can have another go tomorrow.
Maybe I'll make a better choice tomorrow.
You're more open and flexible to the tomorrow rather than Oh, it's all terrible.
And I'm such a bad person and I'm not doing what I should be doing.
And I think that's the key, isn't it?
Yeah.
But what we have to talk about, I think what we all notice our today's world we live in, this has become our feels more pressure rising because there's so many choices.
I mean, when I remember back when I was a child, there wasn't so many choices.
There was boredom.
There wasn't something to look at.
So for people who are curious, who are interested, who know what they should be doing next, that can be really stressful, putting stress and making them pushy and move forward.
That's absolutely.
And the comparison topic obviously is a huge social media topic.
So every day when we switch on, whether it's so-called business social media like LinkedIn, the comparison thing is still there.
You know, everyone's celebrating their wins and their new jobs.
And then I don't know what it is.
Do we?
Yeah, we do as well.
Check out.
We do.
Of course we do.
And maybe there are people sitting there who would like to have a podcast and think, but this is the point.
It's everywhere.
So there's not a whole lot of self-forgiveness out there.
So remember, self-forgiveness is not self-indulgence and it consistently self-criticism consistently reduces motivation according to a lot of studies.
So I think that's just really, really interesting.
Thanks for reminding us.
Very good.
We talked about it.
The Golden Nugget today is about my new courses and my new website.
I have redone my website.
You can head over there, rebeccadeakin.com.
And as you know, I've been working very hard the last couple of years on positive psychology.
I am now fully qualified, fully certified positive psychology practitioner.
I'm also working with the positive psychology guild in the UK as a tutor.
And I love it.
It's brilliant.
But there was such a great connection with language learning.
So my website, you can get more information there.
Basically I'm launching new courses from October and the courses will be combining language learning with specifically English learning with positive psychology.
It's a totally new approach.
Some people are doing this, there are papers on this, but it's generally quite a new approach.
There's not a lot of this out there.
I'm really excited about it.
I did this as my project, my final project for my course, and it worked really well.
So I'm very, very excited to introduce that.
And on my website, I'm also launching a new kind of community space.
If you head over there and you sign up, you subscribe, you'll be able to get a small discount on when my courses are launched.
So there's no obligation to buy, just sign up and you'll get a code, which will give you a discount.
If you would like to buy one of my courses, they are digital.
So there'll be lots of videos and content.
And then the higher versions will also have conversation classes included.
And then the premium version will also have one-to-ones included.
So they're all different levels, but there's a lot of material you can learn in your own time.
So if you join my community, you sign up, you'll get a discount.
And also every Monday, I'm going to be doing a small audio message every Monday, Mindset Monday, where you'll get a 10 to 15 minute message from me with some mindset tips for the week, a little bit of grammar, a little bit of vocab.
So I'm creating a whole new world.
And I would be very, very happy if you would join me over there.
So rebeccadeakin.com, subscribe today, and I will see you there.
Wonderful, Rebecca, that sounds fascinating.
I will subscribe.
I'm looking forward to Mindset Monday, Rebecca input.
Wow.
Our next episode is going to be about modals, modal verbs.
So back to grammar.
We have, I think, covered by now almost every grammar issue, but there's still some bits and pieces and modals we've never talked about properly.
So this is going to be our next topic.
Thanks for listening today and hopefully you'll be joining us next time.
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